Calgary Café at 12:28 AM, 4/6/05

at 12:43 AM, 4/6/05

The Tories were just as bad so it is really galling that they are trying to criticize the Liberals. Only a few benefited in Quebec. The rest of us are proud, harworking party volunteers. Chretien and his cronies are out. Martin has done the right thing. Harper and his fearmongering are trying to make us the 51st state. Canadians are smarter than that!

at 01:05 AM, 4/6/05

Your Liberal talking points aren't going to work any more after this gets out Liberal and Proud.

at 01:18 AM, 4/6/05

Thanks for the details.

'liberal and proud' above is a classic example of the LPC ad-hominem campaign style: '51st state', 'secret US agenda', 'Bush crony', etc.

It has worked well, but this time around it may not. If the Libs need some talking points to distract the public from the Gomery testimony, maybe they should get some tips from the lefty crowd in the US and suggest that Adscam is a "KARL ROVE","CIA", or "HALLIBURTON" plot hatched in Texas and Alberta to overthrow the beloved progressive regime.

at 03:04 AM, 4/6/05

The Ontario vote is overwhelmingly pro-maintaining social changes "done" and pro-more social changes to come. Individual rights make them sick ie:they are proud to support Ken Dryden-parents should not be encouraged to raise their children at home when professional day care workers would do a much better job. The maratimers sell their votes like crack whores. I suspect the Liberals could be twice as bad as they are and they would still get elected. Oh well-at least they can't pretend they didn't know.

at 03:37 AM, 4/6/05

Its a sad day when you can't trust your elected officials to do their jobs and act appropriately. We all suffer.

Ps. wait till you find out where the rest went. The ad scam is only a 1/3 of it.

at 04:09 AM, 4/6/05

Maybe Liberal and Proud is spouting talking points, but (s)he's right that the Tories were just as bad. Why should anyone think that Harper's better? He's a back-room boy at best, who likes to give divisive speeches on the sly.

BTW, Karl Rove et al. didn't overthrow anyone. They surely did hang onto the seat of power with the biggest pile of lies in US history (and that's saying something).

at 04:24 AM, 4/6/05

If you read "On the take" by Stevie Cameron,
You will find that this has been going on for
decades. I'm just suprised that the government hasn't stopped the inquiry. I am curious about how much money the Mulroney's
spent and how much they earned while he was
Prime Minister. I'm starting to think that
the term "honourable" should be removed from
the politician's titles untill they earn the
right.

at 04:33 AM, 4/6/05

Amazing! Finally the truth is coming out, and I can only guess that this is the tip of the iceberg. Still nothing it appears directly linking Chretien. I wait with bated breath for that day. Still no surprise our bleeding heart liberal majority sees no evil and hears no evil. They are more concerned with the plight of the "Alaskan barking frog" then facing the fact that we have all been ripped off!

at 05:56 AM, 4/6/05

liberal and proud at 10:43 PM, 4/5/05

The Tories were just as bad so it is really galling that they are trying to criticize the Liberals.

I guess libs in Canada are just like the libs in the US. This is what the Clintonistas told us for 8 years. "Everybody does it." They went so far to smear Thomas Jefferson, every American male and everyone, who didn't agree with them politically. And people wonder why the Dems have been losing since '94.

at 06:22 AM, 4/6/05

I am no longer upset with the Liberals - I am pissed off with the voters!!! As long as the voters stupidly continue to vote for the Liberals, this type of theft of our money will continue by everyone who gets into power!!

Canadians who succumb to fear mongering by the Liberals deserve to be robbed, but the sad thing is, it also results in the Liberals stealing MY money!!

What will it take for voters to stop voting for thieves and liars (McGuinty)???

at 06:38 AM, 4/6/05

"What will it take for voters to stop voting for thieves and liars???"

They'd have to stop voting. Political parties of all stripes thieve and rob after they gain power. It's up to the citizenry to monitor what's going on--a well-nigh impossible task a lot of the time. But the main point is that democracy isn't about voting once every 4/5 years, going back to sleep, then waking up to complain about your tax dollars being stolen. People need to get more involved.

at 06:38 AM, 4/6/05

I am really happy that the truth is coming out and this verbal spasm from Steven Harper and company is going to cause a fecal leakage on the Neo Conservatives in canada.

Keep it going Gomery. Get going to the botttom of it and root out all the dirt Liberal, Conservative NDP or anything else.

Will always be a proud Canadian.

at 07:11 AM, 4/6/05

It seems to me that there are people that lack integrity in all governments. We need to have laws and the will to inforce them to be able to turf the liars and crooks in all parties and we need to have a govenment that has the balls to turf the liars and crooks who inhabit our own civil service. Corruption is not partisan.

at 08:20 AM, 4/6/05

Liberal and proud! Power corrupts even more true. Liberal corruption is so deep even you workers are brain washed to believe its ok! Your excuse 'the Tories were just as bad'! How many years have the Liberals been in power against the Tory record! Yes, Canadians are smarter than you Liberals think! The truth hurts eh pal!

at 08:22 AM, 4/6/05

paul martin seems to think that he had nothing to do with this ,but i am confused as to how you live in the same house and can't see what is going on.or if your a thief acting with a thief then you say nothing.come on paul stand up and take your medicine.resign you thiefor frienf of a thief

at 09:06 AM, 4/6/05

It appears that many large companies the managers only last for 3-4 years and are off to new ground there is no long lasting ownership. The aides and helpers to the newly elected are bent on preserving their jobs, which means protecting their bosses and getting the dirty work done. The people that have always gotten the job done are called upon. "Don't tell me how you did it just that it is done" and if they want a promotion they will get it done. No matter who you elect the government is still there. .

at 09:12 AM, 4/6/05

This is the start of the end for the Liberal reign. Problem is,,,who should replace them? Harper?

Us Canadians have no viable choice.

at 10:09 AM, 4/6/05

haha Habskilla and Lib loud and proud- you funny!! In da first place conservatives of Mulr era got knocked down to about 10 seats. So if they "just as bad" then how you like cnsquence? Suck it up. 2nd place- ooohhh no don't v for harper my gosh! H might say hafta eat fish on Fri or someth. Can't have that. Better vote Lib again. Hey maybe they bring back first crack at virgin law and do your daughters-no big! You all think that humping is nat- hey...maybe Brison find you and you wake up sore in back with nickle in pocket! ....whatever eh! As long as not Harper.

at 10:20 AM, 4/6/05

All this stuff is very discouraging for people like me who come in day after day to beaver away at our desks, ocassionally putting in extra time to finish off important work for the taxpayer. Meanwhile we apply to take courses and are turned down for lack of training money, or we take university courses assuming we will be reimbursed because of promises made by managers, only to have the request for reimbursement refused because of lack of funds, etc.

Meanwhile we see crap like this having taken place and tarnishing the entire department.

Couple that with the continual flow of senior managers off to french language training; some only months before leaving the department or retiring.

It's discouraging, yet we continue to uphold good personal and professional ethics, even while the senior people slurp at the trough in their self serving, greedy manipulation and abuse of the system.

Calgary Café at 10:45 AM, 4/6/05

Regarding Liberal and Proud, Liberal supporters are so open-minded that their brains have fallen out.

Why anyone would support a party that has stolen millions and millions from us is beyond me.

Liberals are the classic thieves and crooks. They never tell the truth and they only care about enriching themselves.

at 11:11 AM, 4/6/05

Yes I agree that our political system allows for abuse of political position and that it needs to be fixed.

Politics is a dirty game at best and you don't survive if you are only willing to play by the rules especially if breaking them has no consequences.

For all the times Canadians have heard of political abuse our commisions and courts have been unable or unwilling to prosecute and send a clear message to the remainder of the pigs at the trough.

When our politicians or bureaucrats break the law as transparently as the evidence is showing they need to pay the price the same as any other Canadian.

The only recourse to prevent further abuse is change to our political system which currently promotes these practices.

at 11:20 AM, 4/6/05

"For all the times Canadians have heard of political abuse our commisions and courts have been unable or unwilling to prosecute and send a clear message to the remainder of the pigs at the trough."

I thought that's why we had elections.

at 11:24 AM, 4/6/05

HAHAHAHAHA DEATH TO THE LIBERALS!!!!! (not seroiusly just political death!!!) Bring on the Conservatives.... Maybe they won't steal and so what if we have stronger ties to the US? We owe them big time for having a military for us!! If they treated us like we treat them.... well well, denmark seizes half the north, the US takes the other half!! With all the diamonds in it!! Where are the brains of the average person and were are the non-voters!!! Complaining the loudest no doubt. I say they should throw out ALL current federal liberals after the conservatives win, and bring in new slightly more honest ones... But i doubt it... oh well. One more thing, what is the record for broken election promises? I think McGuinty had come pretty close!! sure the tories had a debt, but they still lowered taxes and they had to deal with SARS, West Nile, and federal down-funding. as well, when they came in after the NDP they were losing a million dollars a second...

Ed Mullen at 11:25 AM, 4/6/05

Special interest groups make strategic moves on riding associations, get control of the MPs. For example, the Morgentaler/ Feminist lobby moved Canadian law right out the door. Abortion is so entrenched in Canadian politics that Conservatives sweat when it's mentioned, although Canadians know that killing an unborn child is wrong. Canada has a moral compass, it's been lost, and CBC is standing on it.

at 11:37 AM, 4/6/05

THE ADSCAM STORY IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBURG. Foolish Canadians who support the liberal version of guided democracy should be ashamed of themselves. THE BLOGS SHOULD NEXT LOOK AT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN "POWER CORP" CHRETIEN, MARTIN, PARIS AND OIL LEASES UNDER SADDAM HUSSIEN. THIS MAY LET US UNDERSTAND HOW CANADA'S FRN POLICY IS DEVELOPED.

at 12:09 PM, 4/6/05

The lib's don't get it.
"we did something (sorta) wrong but were (sorta) good" and billy down the street (conservs) they are real bad. buncha 3yr olds
steven harper is a decent man, personal friend, who is trying to better his country

at 12:17 PM, 4/6/05

The availability of information with the Gomery publication ban, by bloggers, is the best thing that has happened to Canada since sliced bread.

Hopefully, this example of uncapable political corruption will awaken the average Canadians eyes from their hypnotic trance of consumerism to see how they been manipulated by false images and practised rhetoric for decades now.

Logically it will signal change and the Liberal Party will go the way of the previous dinasaur, the Progressive Conservative Party, whose equally corrupt and above-the-law mentality caused its demise too.

Now it is time to put the whole Canadian political scene under a microscope--learn from our past errors and reform our entire parlimentarian system: a voted senate, equal representation, MP's and party delegates that historically reside in their respective ridings, and accountability for election promises.

at 12:44 PM, 4/6/05

When are we going to make politicians accountable for they're actions. If you're a thief, you go to jail. Period.

at 01:06 PM, 4/6/05

No matter how badly either political party has acted in Canada over the decades, there are still many countries out there that have done far worse. No one lost their life over this, as far as we know anyway.

If any political party, no matter where it is located on this globe, were to do a similar investigation into the ways and means of how the taxpayers' dollars have been spent, they will find corruption. This is not a Canadian pandemic, this is a universal truth.

Taxpayers are continually trusting of their elected officials only to find out that they are crooks. We need to look more closely at the backgrounds and credentials of the people we place in power, no matter where they live.

The United States is just as bad, if not worse, since they have more money to play with down there. Democrat or Liberal, Republican or Conservative, they're all the same. Power breeds corruption. What we need is a better system.

at 01:16 PM, 4/6/05

Liberals..isn't it enough to know that for over 12 years we have been drfrauded by a corrput government? Some mention Mulroney and his friends- probably true. But the facts are out and coming out daily that these Liberals have corrupted the inside walls of your parilaiment so bad, that they are arrogant enough to think that whatever details come out - they are not to balme and fellow Cdns will always vote them in.

PLEASE wake up -Liberals to the dirt that lies around your feet. You should be appalled and ashamed that you voted for such corruption.

Conservatives deserve a chance to clean office and if years ahead we see the same scandalous acts- vote them out too.

But for now Liberals should be spanked out of Ottawa and given some time to sit on the side and think what they have done to the average Joe and taxpayer.
Admit it Liberals and you may be able to look at yourself with some small piece of dignity.

Eliza at 01:22 PM, 4/6/05

Don't ya all know"its the Canadian way!". Its the "usual way we do business"! This crowd of crooks and theives don't even believe that they have done anything wrong! Boggles the mind.The corruption is so deep and has seeped into many corporations such as Canada Post, Via Rail and even the R.C.M.P. is involved. Just keep voting liberal and you will keep getting more of your tax money paying for homes in Pheonix Ariz. for the "boys" and the "girls".

at 01:29 PM, 4/6/05

nobody listening to quebec people when we talk...we told you since the beginning that
jean chretien was bad very bad...from now on could you please listen more of what we have to say...we are not so bad after all...

at 01:34 PM, 4/6/05

HMMM.. abunch of canadians eh.. slammin your fellow canadians. Why? because a handful of criminals bilched the federal coffers. Now all liberals are dishonest? Maritimers are now crack whores??..NNiice comment, be proud of yourself "doubtful". You know, I was raised in a conservative family, my father helped Mulroney get elected. He truly thought the man was honest. Surprise! Hello!!! what the hell does party affililation mean?? Does it mean, my dad was liberal so I'm liberal and it doesn't matter whose running or what their ideals are?? I'm a conservative so I will always vote conservative, doesn't matter what idiot is running that party.
These are views of people either too lazy, too stupid or too...uh stupid to make a decision based on candidates and issues. Wake up. Grow up. Get a life.

at 01:49 PM, 4/6/05

Hurray for Gomery! Keep it going my good man. Lets get to the bottom of it once and for all.

I can remember advertizing that came out from Preston Manning about the "deep hole" in the Liberal spending. Now I know for certain where a lot of our tax money went and where the hole came from.

Harper and the Conservatives at least say that they will lower taxes. Every body says they can't. Well if the Liberal spending this way is stopped, there is no reason why
taxes can't be lowered. If my memory serves me correctly, the Liberals are bragging how they lowered taxes. Well I'm betting that if Preston Manning and Steven Harper hadn,t shamed them into it, our taxes would be even higher. The Liberals always knew they could lower taxes if they didn't pocket quite so much.

My money is with Harper and lower taxes, at least they won't be able to syphon off so much that way. Go get em Steven, eh.

at 01:55 PM, 4/6/05

If we really want to get to the root of the problem in politics in Canada, we have to look to our Constitution and what P.E.T. did to this country.

Canada is the LEAST democratic country in the "free" world. P.E.T. successfully concentrated power in the PMO. As a result, the P.M. tells his MPs how to vote on every bill. But worse than that, this ONE person has the power to:

- Appoint Supreme Court judges
- Appoint all heads of Crown Corporations
- Appoint Senators

Where in the "free" world does one person have so much power? We effectively elect an autocrat. If you accept the addage that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, then what we need to do is change our Constitution.

Let's face it, our Constitution was drafted by politicians tell us how they were going to govern us. What we need is a Constitution which is voted on by the electorate that tells our politicians how we WANT to be governed.

We certainly don't want to be governed in the manner of which Chretien or Mulroney governed.

Canadians turfed Mulroney and the Reform Party was born. Unfortunately, the RP was hijacked by a group of religious extremists with a narrow agenda. Meanwhile, the PCs did nothing to modify their stance (even though Canadians said they didn't like what Mulroney did). It is too bad that the Conservatives have decided to keep the albatross of their name hanging around so long as names like Joe Clarke and Brian Mulroney are associated with it. The Conservatives truly need to market themselves as something other than the Reform Party and the Progressive Conservatives.

But this is all just dreaming on my part.

at 02:02 PM, 4/6/05

cub1c at 02:22 PM, 4/6/05

at 02:27 PM, 4/6/05

Thanks for keeping us all up to date on this stuff.
As many have said, no matter what happens those right at the top will never be taken to court. They will let a few pawns take the heat, while the big boys get off scott free and continue taking our money.

Every and I mean every Political Party has skeltons in the closet. It is up to the voters to figure who is really honest and 100% pure as the driven snow.

But I know one thing may be certain, corruption is in all levels of Canadian Government. Fed, Prov, and yes, even your home town/city municipalities. Why do you think, that most people who ARE in office already are reasonably rich. they enter politics to get richer and we as voters let them get away with it. year after year

RMT Ontario

at 02:32 PM, 4/6/05

Mulroney may have been corrupt, and I did my best to have him removed from office - I voted in Cretien. Cretien attacked Mulroney on patronage appointments, but when Cretin got in, he made Mulroney look like a rank amateur. But you have to look at who trained him - our illustrious former PM P.E. Trudeau - another crook, thief and idiot.

I am sick and tired of the Canadian government. They rip us off, there is ZERO accountability, and we the people never get a say as to what we want. Majority of Canadians did not want the gun registry, Kyoto or gay marriage - all of them pushed thru the commons (well not gay marriage yet).

This ADSCAM thing is small potatoes, why was there never an uproar when that liberal idiot Jane Stewart LOST 1 BILLION DOLLARS somewhere in the HRDC.

The liberals have to go. They don't know how to manage money, they don't listen to Canadians and they have ruined our fine reputation worldwide. Canada has become a laughing stock. The silent liberal doctrine of "we should hate americans" has pervaded our society and severely hurt our relationship with them. Now before you flame me - I like americans, but I do not wish to be the 51st state.

I used to be a proud Canadian, but am not anymore. I am a proud Albertan. I hope that Quebec separates so that will lead the way for Alberta. And yes, we could make it on our own, because we rely on no other provinces for help - being treated like second class citizens from Ottawa can do that for a people. Just as a side note, our PM said that true Canadians would support the gay marriage law - does that mean anyone who does not agree with him is suddenly not a true pariotic Canadian? Bastard!

If we don't separate, I certainly hope that there is a less corrupt form of government in place.

at 02:56 PM, 4/6/05

It amazes me when we are outraged that governments steal our money. They always have and always will. Two ways to defend ourselves:
1)continually change out the politicos so that they change out the bureaucrats ( as you know they have to have their buds run the federal agencies and companies)The changes will allow them less time to institutionalize the theft.
2)send them less money - they waste so much of it that if they get less they'll waste less.

Oh, sure it appears they may have even broke some laws (and should go to jail if they have) and it is a reasonable sum of money; but that amount is miniscule in comparision to what they waste every day: telling us to save a tonne, register you gun so you don't kill anyone, build and close an airport, buy and don't buy and then buy helicopters, .........see what I mean.

hm calgary

drwright at 03:05 PM, 4/6/05

It's the voters of Ontario's fault they keep the libs in power and their corrupt regional party rules all of Canada!

There are 6 stinkin Libs in MB,Sask and Alberta total.

The west needs to separate. If Mulrooney was corrupt do remember he came from out east. Funny how all our problems stem from someone east of Manitoba. Err, Thunder Bay even.

Liberals voted against same sex marriages so they are capable of anything.

at 04:09 PM, 4/6/05

at 04:26 PM, 4/6/05

Everybody is forgetting the 2 most important persons and we should all be grateful towards the bloc Quebecois for questioning the Liberals several hundreds times and Sheila Fraser for denouncing the irregularities during 2 separate auditing. Let me surprise every reader, I am proud to be a separatist and fortunately the bloc Quebecois has no experience like the other 2 parties in scandalous activities and let me assure you they will continue in the future simply because it is politics with big money and powerful people. Unfortunately the bloc can only be elected in Quebec and you guys have no other choice but to vote between 2 corrupt parties. It would be impracticable to imagine the scenario that a minority of Canadians would give their vote to the bloc simply to confuse the issue. You can no longer afford to give your votes to neither party you all dislike and your comments are unanimous. People with experience in politics would seriously investigate this impossible situation even with the smallest count for the bloc elsewhere in Canada and I guarantee you they would react accordingly. Let me suggest that you team up with a friend and one will cancel his vote and only half voters will be counted and again I will guarantee you that they will take a closer look in their behavior. Please understand our position in Quebec to pursue our goal for separation and get rid off that shit once and for all. I have no intention of offending anybody across Canada.

at 05:45 PM, 4/6/05

Many years ago, a wise teacher was speaking on elections; he said one should elect the candidate that you would entrust with your business. It seems to me that if everyone took that advice, instead of voting for a favorite party and gave your vote to the most trusted candidate, we would have a more honourable government.

at 06:01 PM, 4/6/05

I understand that the Bloc is all about Quebec, but it is unfortunate that they could not run separatist candidates across the country, for separation of each province. That would certainly catch the feds notice.
As for the Stevie Cameron book, wasn't that just proved to be bunk?
And perhaps Mulroney was corrupt, but does that make it okay for the Liberals to be ten times more corrupt? He was trounced in the following election for goodness sake. Maybe they learned their lesson, and deserve another chance. I doubt they could be worse than the Liberals.

at 06:35 PM, 4/6/05

i am neither a liberal a conservatrice or an ndper. just a very old lady [73] who thinks all politicians are crooks and have been given too much power by an apathetic electorate hence am not surprised by chretien 's shenanigans. however the more american than canadian s harper would not be any better, so for the first time in my life when elections come [and they will soon] i will be voting NDP. they have no money sense true but at least i know they will waste my taxes on things that they think are needed not corruption yet. daniele mcrae

Calgary Café at 06:40 PM, 4/6/05

at 07:12 PM, 4/6/05

i am a proud yukonner but if i still lived in quebec i also would vote for the bq. at least they honest about what what they want and they are the ones who have fueled the fires about chretien , martin , gagliano etc. corruption for years. we dont have a separatist party here only liberal ndp and conservator. this last will never be elected here for a lot of reasons namely we are proud canadians not americans wannabes so most of us only choice at nxt election will be ndp. my fed representatif may not be a crook but his party sure is ahahahah lol daniele mcrae

at 07:20 PM, 4/6/05

It seems as though today's message is that the bloc was also involved. It's a shame that one group is stating that another group is worse then theirs. What a system of government we are inspiring. "My brand is not as crooked as yours." I believe, what we need, is a system for all of us to use that would have checks and balances to stop this rampant amount of crime.
I would rather be saying, "My brand is better than your brand." Hmm, makes sense to me.
You cannot say that your crook is a better person because he only stole 50 million and yours is worse because he stole 100. They are both, in definition, crooks. Is this who you want to defend?

at 07:28 PM, 4/6/05

Gomery Notes - "To be continued"

Please do, I need more. This is the best I've found on the web so far.

We Canadians (despite constant impressions to the contrary) love freedom as much a Americans.

Thanks for the detailed information on Thursday's testimony.

Joe

at 07:59 PM, 4/6/05

Harper announced today that if the Bloc try to bring the gov't down he will not support it. He wants to wait until the entire report comes out.

I, for one, would never support the bloc. I am Canadian first. Their sole mission is to promote the secession of Quebec from Canada or, when the desire of Quebecers for secession is weak, to promote the "interests" of Quebec. There is a Canada outside Quebec.

at 09:10 PM, 4/6/05

Could you imagine working for a small organization, in which:
30 have been accused of spousal abuse.
9 have been arrested for fraud, 14 have been accused of writing bad cheques, 55 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit.
95 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses.
4 have done time for assault.
12 have been arrested on drug related charges.
4 have been arrested for shoplifting.
16 are currently defendants in lawsuits.
62 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year....
Can you guess which organization this is?
It is the 301 MP's in the Canadian Parliament. Taken from the Ottawa Citizen.

Aaron at 09:12 PM, 4/6/05

For those who are looking, I have a new post on this matter.

at 09:51 PM, 4/6/05

Thank you Aaron. I read your new post.

FrustratedCivilServant.

Copyright Southam Publications Inc. Apr 13, 2001
The Ottawa Citizen has been falsely attributed as the source of an Internet hoax that accuses members of Parliament of a variety of transgressions, including spousal assault and drunk driving.

The message circulating around the world erroneously suggests that the 301 MPs in the House of Commons have collectively been involved in several hundred criminal charges or moral lapses ranging from bad credit to assault.

"This is the same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line," the message concludes. It incorrectly claims the list of crimes "was in the Ottawa Citizen." In fact, the Citizen published no such article or list.

Most of the information about the MPs in the message, such as the number allegedly arrested for fraud or shoplifting, is verifiably wrong. Still, the message has circulated on Internet mailing lists and Usenet discussion groups. This week, several radio stations in Canada contacted the Citizen in the hopes of interviewing the author of the story.

Citizen Executive Editor Don Butler said anyone reading the message should understand that it did not originate with the paper.

"We devoutly wish people would stop falsely attributing it to us if they're going to circulate this invention," he said.

There is a similar one for statistics on U.S. legislators as well. :)

at 10:45 PM, 4/6/05

I see the future....

And it is good, out with Liberals, Finally.

Maybe a new regime will get rid of these corrupt ways

Eliminate foolhardy programs, cut our taxes and

make the upper house elected and represent the common man.

Eliminate these wasteful "regional development boondoggles, the gun registry..."

Improve relations with the U.S.

reform the department of Native affairs.

Do better thing with the my hard earned which i contribute as taxes...

Frankly I hate what liberals governements from Trudeau all the way down have down to our country...

Thank You Mr Gomery

God Bless!!!

at 12:03 AM, 4/7/05

Quebec wanted out of Canada but couldn't get away. With the recent developments the rest of the country will probably want to kick Quebec out. With most prime ministers coming from quebec i dont think its a big step to see thats been the plan all along.

Ever so slowly, people sympathetic to Quebecs cause are entering key positions in all governments. It takes years for this to happen. We now have had language laws shoved down our throats witch will increase the momentum. Its like a cancer that can only be stopped by counting it out.

The canadian government cowtows to quebec because its a minorty.We have spent tons of money on bilingualism. How does quebec handle thier minorities? Ask if your kids can attend an english school, can you read the signs?

Come on Canada wake up and smell the coffee, WE need somebody to make the hard choices,stand up and do whats right for the country.

at 02:27 AM, 4/7/05

"As the Bloc leader has designs on the leadership of the Parti Quebecois, does he intend to ask for an inquiry into the $100,000 received by the Parti Quebecois from Groupaction?'' Martin asked.

Duceppe shot back: "If the prime minister is so eager to ask questions, he'll have that chance soon when he finds himself in the opposition.''


Had to quote that, it is too funny.

I agree with dixxyking. We have spent far too much money trying to keep Quebec happy and a part of Canada. If they want to go, let them, and good luck. We would not have the problems in Quebec if when the English came in and conquered them they would have assimilated them. They would still speak french, but it would not be an official language. Look at Louisiana. Lots of French Canadian defectors went there, and the U.S. never gave them special rights or language laws. Yet they still speak french (or a version of it), they maintain their own way of life and protect their own culture. Why then do we need laws that do this? Before you flame me, I didn't say that the English should have done this to Quebec, only that things would be different if they had.

Now back to American bashing. Don't we have anti-hate laws in this country? What is the difference in saying I hate americans, as opposed to saying I hate niggers? They are the same thing, only instead of singling them out based on race, you single them out based on nationality. I find that most people who say they hate Americans, shop at Wal-Mart instead of The Bay because of cheaper prices, and then they will scarf a burger down at Burger King. How hypocritical.

I am loving how all the liberals will say that the conservatives are just as corrupt trying to deflect criticism away from themselves instead of being accountable for their actions and taking their lumps like a responsible party/human being. And anyone who criticizes the liberals has to be a liberal hating conservative. Strange how they jump to conclusions. Try cliffs or bridges for a change. :)

at 10:30 AM, 4/7/05

at 10:37 AM, 4/7/05

The big 3 parties in Canada are obviously too old and corrupt to govern the people responsibly.

It's time to change our old Canadian ways and begin without prejudice a better system of government. Be that structure or party.

at 12:35 PM, 4/7/05

Enough of the Quebec tail wagging the Canadian dog, which is what underlies this whole mess. Begone! Have a nice country. Now, let us get on with life.

at 06:33 PM, 4/7/05

Were Canada to have a republican system of government with a Constitution like that of the U.S., and were the allegations of kickbacks and corruption to be true, there would be more than ample evidence for our elected legislative body to impeach the president. Sadly, there is no option or right under our parliamentary system to impeach a Prime Minister.

I do not doubt the veracity of the witnesses who have come before the Gomery Inquiry, and I praise Justice Gomery for his courage and steadfast adherence to the principles of justice and the dictates of his profession. He has shown fairness to all concerned and has refused to back down in the face of political pressure from Liberal attack dogs and lawyers.

Sadly enough, corruption in federal politics is nothing new. I am a liberal, no longer a Liberal. I would bet my next pay cheque that were one to ask your typical card-carrying Liberal for a definition of liberal, they would for the most part be unable to say anything than repeat the policy bites they'd been fed at their last policy convention.

I am a liberal, and proud to say that I believe in liberalism; i.e. the primacy of individual rights, equality of rights for all irrespective of ethnic or linguistic origin, gender, or sexual orientation. I believe in freedom of choice and the freedom to pursue one's path in life to the maximum of one's full potential, free of interference from the State unless the pursuit of one's goals intrudes unfairly on the rights of another.

The Liberal Party of Canada is bereft of vision and any moral or legal compass. The corruption in Quebec is just part of the history of a once-great Party that gave this country the likes of Laurier and Pearson. The Party's slide into moral nihilism began with Pierre Elliot Trudeau - a sneering, rich, arrogant punk who used to enjoy baiting brave young men his age who were due to leave to fight Nazis in the Second World War. You don't believe me? Read biographies about him, particularly the biography by Peter Newman. Trudeau would sit in bars in Montreal, usually with one or two fawning bimboes with him, and taunt men in uniform. Why nobody punched the shit out of him is beyond me. Canadians, English-Canadians in particular, are just too damned complacent.

Trudeau, the great civil libertarian who never served his country in wartime, yet went on to orchestrate one of the most egregious examples of an assualt on civil liberties in October of 1970 by effectively banning democracy for a few weeks with the imposition of the War Measures Act. That singular act did more to spur the rise of the PQ than to any other act in our history. Trudeau, who gutted the country's military and reduced our influence on the world stage from the nadir we enjoyed under Pearson, continues to cast his shadow on the Liberal Party.

And now we have this: a Party without ideals and one full of people who think a political party exists to enrich themselves and who think that taxpayer money is a private fund to toss around with no heed to reason.

I share the anger and frustration of the poster who suggested there may be no other alternative than to vote Green. I will not be working for the Liberals in the next election, which cannot come soon enough for me. Nor will I be voting for them.

Anthony Silvestro at 01:40 PM, 4/8/05

I really get a kick out of you Anti-English Francophone bigots in Quebec.You ban/hate our language and our culture,but love our money and our jobs.The sooner you bastards separate the better off we'll all be.We can go back to being an English speaking country and save billions in the process.Ladies and gentlemen this scandle is nothing,Quebec has been funneling billions of our dollars into the province for decades.No one should be surprised by this latest scandle,this is how the french do business.Kick the bigots out and give us our country back.

at 03:40 PM, 4/8/05

Please don't put all Quebeceurs in one category. Remember, 51% voted to be part of Canada no matter how hard the separatists tried to brainwash them. If the rest of Canada could resist brainwashing techiniques this well, we wouldn't have the Liberals in power now.

at 06:16 PM, 4/8/05

Me, I ham rilly angry about all dis talk 'ere about dat corrupt ting in Quebec. I don' know nudding about dat. Me I only play da golf dere in Quebec when all dis ting suppose to be 'appening. My buddy Paul Martin dere? He is nice man and I trus 'im when 'im say dat da RCMP will look into dat ting dere and if anywan do someting wrong, even if it a Liberal, well, dey will be charge.

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There is one way to get an honest government. Vote in the Conservative party as the media keeps them under a microscope at all times. Do you think for one minute that this deep of corruption would have gone unnoticed by the media if it had been the Conservatives?

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