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God Hates The Westboro Baptist Church

1:01 am, 6/18/05

God Hates The Westboro Baptist Church
ATTENTION SOUTHERN ILLINOIS (AND SURROUNDING AREA) READERS: A reader has alerted me that some mob of lunatics from the "Reverend" Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist "Church" in Topeka, Kansas are coming here today to desecrate the military funeral of Army Specialist Brian M. Romines in Anna, Illinois. They're apparently planning to show up at 10:30 AM at the Anna Heights Baptist Church on Turner Avenue. Phelps' "Church" is nothing more than a cult commune, and this is a great opportunity to show up and counterprotest: If you aren't familiar with these wild savages, you can visit their website at, I kid you not, godhatesamerica.com, or, alternately, godhatesfags.com. (As you'll see, they don't believe there is a difference, and seem to believe that the military is under the control of some homosexual plot.) Here's an excerpt from their flyer for this "epic" event:

"God is not mocked!" America bombed WBC with an IED. God in retaliation is killing U.S. soldiers like Brian with IEDs in Iraq.

...America is doomed, for persecuting Westboro Baptist Church because WBC for 14 years now has warned against the filthy, sinful fag agenda. God is retaliating against this evil nation for bombing WBC with an IED. God is saying to America: "You set off an IED attempting to terrorize my people; now I will kill thousands of your soldiers with IEDs." America's terrorist is God Himself. America is now a fag nation. America is now at war with God.

Phelps

Do they sound more like Islamists, or leftists? Is that what it'd look like if the two finally merged? They get off on the misery of others, and have no recognizable Christian doctrine, and now they're coming to interfere with the memorial of one of our neighbors. This clan of nutcases travels the country disrupting military funerals and other events, creating scenes like this one:

Thirteen members of an anti-gay church from Kansas who picketed a high school graduation Saturday were met with about 250 counter-demonstrators, 30 police officers and numerous residents annoyed to see divisive protest in this normally quiet town.

Carrying signs reading, "America is Doomed" and "God Hates Perverts," followers and relatives of the Rev. Fred Phelps traveled about 1,800 miles from Topeka to picket the high school graduation at Tracy High because they were upset that students at a different high school in Tracy gained administrative support for resurrecting their chapter of the Gay-Straight Alliance.

But some people who drove by or walked past were very offended when one of the anti-gay protesters was seen dragging an American flag along the sidewalk and the dirt along 11th Street outside the high school.

This isn't their first military funeral, but Phelps is best known for protesting the funeral of Matthew Shepard. These creeps have disrupted everything from school ceremonies to a memorial for the Columbia astronauts (when "God struck the symbol of your might and arrogance out of the sky") to the funerals of AIDS victims to the second Bush inauguration (where they claim they were met by "violent beasts"), and aren't welcome anywhere. Remember David Parker, the Massachusetts man who (quite rightly) demanded to be notified if his son was going to be taught about homosexuality? These guys took it as a welcome wagon, and it wasn't:

The Westboro Baptist Church based in Topeka, Kan., is targeting communities it says are "accepting" of the gay lifestyle, including Lexington - a town pulled into the spotlight because of one father's demands he be notified whenever homosexuality is discussed in his son's kindergarten classroom.

But David Parker, 42, who was arrested on trespassing charges at the Joseph Estabrook School in April, challenged the group to move their protest to his front lawn. Parker said he does not share the Topeka group's views.

"Do they have the courage to face me instead of small children or will they take the coward's way out and ignore me," said Parker, who described the group as a "hate church."

Phelps has, he claims, organized 22,000 such "epics" in the last 12 years, but has stepped it up lately because he claims/believes that a conspiracy between the "fag-infested military" and the government ordered the bombing of his church 6 years ago. (Counterprotestors, it seems, only show up because the U.S. government forces them to.) It's the ultimate lunacy, and I don't think politics plays a role in realizing it has no place here.

I wish I'd had more than a few hours notice about this, or I'd have organized a reception myself, but I'm probably not going to be able to make it down. This notice may come too late, however, there will undoubtedly be plenty of spontaneous outrage to go around should you choose to come out and join the party, and these sacks of animated excrement deserve it. If any reader does decide to come out and provide moral support to the Romines family, you are encouraged to take photos and tell your story for fifteen minutes of fame here.

Update: A blog account of the protest in Idaho:

At 1252, the blue-shirted protester, probably Phelps' son, shouted at a carload of soldiers turning into the parking lot, "Watch out for IEDs!" After this, he started shouting "French is in Hell" to everyone who passed. On two occasions, he shouted this to young women who appeared to be the right age to be Carrie's classmates. Their mothers had to restrain them; I talked to one who walked by afterwards, tears streaming down her face as she sobbed "Those bastards", and I told her that I'd do my best to tell the world what horrible people these are. The other young woman so accosted just yelled "F*ck you!" back at the protesters; the protesters just laughed.

Hopefully the Anna police will do at least as good a job containing these idiots as the Caldwell cops did.

Southern Illinois
Comment (203)

Chris D at 10:34 PM, 6/18/05

I looked this guy up on Wikipedia, and look what I found:

In the 1980s, the Phelps family were strong political allies with then-senator Al Gore. The home of Fred Jr., Phelps' eldest son, located in the Westboro compound, acted as Gore's campaign quarters for one of his senate races, and the Westboro compound was host to a fundraiser. Numerous photos exist on the internet of Fred Phelps Jr. and his second wife, Betty Phelps-Schurle, posing with Al and Tipper Gore in Phelps Jr.'s home. Phelps also served as a Gore delegate on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta in 1988. (link with photos.)

http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml

Rev. Phelps has run in numerous Democratic primary elections for governor of the state of Kansas in 1992, 1994, and the last time in 1998, when he garnered over 15,000 votes, almost 15% of the total votes cast.

http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/05/kansas.results/

Very interesting...

at 05:39 PM, 6/30/05

Sorry Phelps is a rightiwnger. Fox News gives him a lot of time and he's partnered with Jeb Bush. Remember a lot of the right such as Falwell said our country deserved 9/11 because of homosexuality and other things. This is what "moral values" is about and why people like you are trying to lead us into destruction by doing things like ignore military advice on how to wage this war and otherwise undermine us. The buildup in the economy is designed to further the process because rightwing leaders think that when the world falls apart Jesus will come.

at 03:30 AM, 7/6/05

These guys are idiots. I cannot believe this crap they are spreading.

at 01:32 AM, 7/29/05

Read all of this all so you don't get the wrong impression from the first couple sentences

I want to thank Phelps, no kidding. I really needed something to do after retiring in 97. Phelps showing up at Matthew Shepard's funeral - Thank you freddie for enlightening me- my purpose in life is now to further the cause of equality for our LGBT citizens. We contribute thousands of $$/year to gay causes, and to scholarships for gay kids and occasionally for str8 kids who deserve the $$ and you can be sure that they see nothing wrong with gay kids, and many have gay friends.

As for God, freddie the truely fag, if I believe, it is because you showed up at Matthew's funeral. I thought his murder was a terrible thing, but terrible things happen every day in this country. It was your actions that really got me involved. I'm on the board of a gay civil rights organization now as well. You've done more for the gay rights movement then you could have done if you were supportive of our gay citizens. It is my understanding that your church (forgive me Father, for I sin in calling freddie's place a house of worship) consists primarily of about 50 members of your extended family, including that p_g you call your wife. I also believe in God, because in March of 2000 I sat next to Matthew's Mom on a flight from Chicago to Cleveland on SWA. I really didn't know what to say, so I said nothing. She had her younger son with here, I've seen him in one TV show, and this is real confirmation. Out of 300 mil people, I sat next to Matthews Mom, and by the way freddie I've met his Dad once, and his Mom 3 times since then.

So take heart, all of you who read this. The big lesson for me was that one has to be involved. The price of liberty and freedom is eternal vigilance by all good and well meaning people. I might also want to take a moment to express my disgust for Pres. Bush. He has licensed /used his bully pulpit to encourage nothing short of hatred for gay people. It comes from Texas, part of the 'bible belt' which many people like me view as a term that refers to ignorant and brainwashed people who can't think for themselves. Also note how well the bible belt matches up with the old south, if they can't have slaves or Jim Crow laws, they find another group to fear and hate in their ignorance. It is also not surprising that TX leads the nation I believe in executions, and that the James Byrd (may he rest in peace) dragging death occured in TX. Bush got re-elected by focusing his campaign on ignorance and hatred toward gay people and the concept gays having legal rights equivalent to marriage. He did this to get the focus off his disaster in Iraq. Democrats are far from perfect, but you King George could destroy this country by encouraging internally generated religious based hatred against our gay citizens, and turn this country into something not unlike Iraq where one group of citizens murders another based on religion. (Remember Adolf H?) Well, I was dumb enough to vote for you the first time around, in my usual str8 republican manner. Thats changed, last Nov one liberal republican got my vote, all else went to the democrats.

All you people, get involved. Peace, love, compasion and friendship should rule the world.

at 12:18 PM, 8/9/05

Fred Phelps, Sr. (The Cryptkeeper)has been recognized to be clinically mentally disturbed. He is a demonic genius/disbarred attorney, who beat his 13 children and wife (Mrs. Cryptkeeper) nearly to death with a mattox handle (similar to a large axe handle). Do a Google search on Mark and Nate Phelps, they are free from the Branch Phelpians and told their story, which has been collaborated by photos of the injuries inflicted on them by their warped daddy dearest.
Their church has no affiliation with the Baptist or any other christian denomination.
He gained it through a hostile takeover. He forced his wife and all of his children to become lawyers (or be severely beaten) and has held the city of Topeka, Kansas (which lacks a proper backbone) in litigation with hundreds, perhaps thousands of lawsuits, and fax campaigns be publicly releasing (illegally) medical reports and gossip on public officials. This guy is a megalomaniac. The ONLY thing this bunch DOES fear is being threatened with psychological evaluation. The only case of them dropping one of their bogus lawsuits came when each member of the clan was threatned with psychological evaluation,,,for obvious reasons,,,they're all nutjobs who've had their brains bashed out.
Protesting homosexuals or anyone who gets in their way was not financially lucrative enough, so Fred decided to "protest" military funerals. This is the most important thing to ,know about this bunch,,
THEY ARE HIGHLY TRAINED TO PURPOSELY INCITE MOURNERS (WHO ARE EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE) TO PHYSICALLY ATTACK THEM SO THEY CAN PROFIT FROM YET ANOTHER LAWSUIT TO FURTHER THEIR LIFESTYLE. They have traveled to military funerals all over the U.S. and publicize where they will be on their website; www.godhatesfags.com
and www.godhatesamerica.com
Here's hoping that the next time someone decides to bomb their operation, they get the job done right.

at 01:46 PM, 8/14/05

The David Parker case is really about parental rights, and that is why the church members from Kansas were not welcome.

David Parker is asking for the right (supposedly guaranteed under Massachusetts state law) to be notified whenever topics of human sexuality are discussed with his son in Kindergarten. This is hardly being unreasonable!

The events leading up to his arrest are a sham, as anyone who has read the email exchanges will attest to. Now the town of Lexington is using its considerable resources - money and people - to prosecute Mr. Parker for trying to exercise his rights.

I am opposed to persecution of people for trying to exercise their rights in all circumstances. That is why I support Mr. Parker.

http://www.davidparkerfund.org/

Revri at 08:05 PM, 12/27/05

Yehn, this nut is a *fuzzing* booby-hatch.
I wonder if his wife-beating habits are
widely known.
If they are, how did this nutjob get a church?

*Yer goin' to hell, Freddy-boy!'

at 02:35 PM, 1/5/06

Rev. Fred is obviously a few fries short of a Happy Meal. To say we deserved 9/11 and that our military men and women are dying due to homosexuality is absurd. Any of his followers should leave now before he has them drink special kool-aid and wait for a spaceship to take them to another planet.

at 11:41 PM, 2/6/06

dude i dont care who this guy is and he can preach all the crap he wants for all i care. i think if dante were to walk through the inferno again he would find a seat for phelps in the 7th level with the blasphemers. no thats not fair. i dont want to see anyone burn for eternity but i hope he gets a God-kick to the gonads before he gets into paradise. anyway what im trying to get to is that its a free country, he can say what he wants, protest i don't care. its his constitutional right to be wrong. just leave funerals alone thats just down right low. let the people greave. its what any God loving person will do. even if he were right (which hes not) jesus (who hes supposed to follow as a churchman) let sinners greave in peace. its just common decentcy

at 04:25 AM, 2/7/06

Well this blows all that WWJD right out the window. I liken this guy to Hitler only not even 1/8th as intelligent. Wouldn't be suprised to find out he was raped at one time or another. What I don't understand is how could anyone fall in line and think this is a good idea? I mean it's one thing for some idiot to be out there but a whole church? And what does all this say about Christians as a whole? Pathetic, sad and pathetic. They weren't getting enough press so they decided to offend a wider group of people. They're nothing but a bunch of mental terrorist.

at 08:55 AM, 2/7/06

Mr. Phelps ... YOU and your family and church members are horrible, disgusting, UN-godly, impious, inhumane people... You are making a mockery of Christians everywhere. Believe what you want... preach what you want... but for petes sake please leave those poor people alone... let them bury their dead in peace no matter who they are or how/why they died. It is their God given right to do so.
God DOESN'T hate anyone... we are all God's children and He loves us all the same. God doesn't kill anyone, He doesn't throw bombs or grenades or make people do things to kill another... if you know ANYTHING about God and His word (the bible) then you must know that He has given us all free will and what we do with it is up to us... He doesn't punish us ... we will be dealt with when we meet Him and by His Grace and mercy most of us will be saved.
You are not working and walking with Jesus ... He would never do these things you are doing. In fact ... when He died on the cross for our sins, He asked God to forgive and bless those that perscuted Him for they know not what they do.
I pity you Mr Phelps... You need to get right with God now and stop this foolishness.

at 07:56 PM, 2/8/06

Does it occur to anyone how eerily ironic Mr. Phelps rantings and looks are of those portrayed in a eerie character featured in a movie from 20 years ago? Poltergeist 2, Rev. Henry Kane portrayed skillfully by the late Julian Beck?
Check it out....
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/8476/noframes.html

David at 03:22 PM, 2/18/06

Speaking of the Rev. Kane, feel free to visit my fan web site www.poltergeistIII.com

at 02:18 PM, 4/18/06

These people need to put down the picket signs and pick up the bible. They contradict every message every message written to include passing judgement. I am a veteran and Christian and this group of extremists are doing nothing positive for the USA. There message is hate. Pure hate, plain and simple. The real problem is this is how the church, Christianity and religion gets a bad name. From people who are not religious at all, but try to use that as a blanket identifier. What happened to spreading the good news as the bible instructs us to do? And who in their right mind would picket outside the funeral of a soldier who gave his or her life for the very freedom that allows them to stand out there and picket. I heard a motorcycle group has gone there to keep them away from the families who are grieving. God Bless those Americans. I hope Phelps and his cult wake up and see the real message.

at 07:08 AM, 5/6/06

The members of the above listed church should be forced into military service for this country. I would highly recommend EOD for all of them. That way they can thank the psycho god that they hear inside their heads for IED's all they want.

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